Protein Debate

by Lori and Michelle on February 16, 2010

Hey friends,

Glad to see everyone liked our pizza and key lime cookie sandwich! We both felt great after eating this pizza, which in the past was not always the case due to nuts found in most raw pizza recipes (Ian would understand your issue with too many nuts).  We are happy we were able to make our pizza nut free ; ) We had happy tummies.

Check us out on Crazy Sexy Life…we are so excited to share our story!! Let us know what you think.

Today we wanted to talk about a topic that is a bit controversial.

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Some readers asked us about where we get our protein?  We have a lot we could say on this topic but going to try to keep it short.

When we first when vegan to be honest we never thought about protein. Actually we never thought about being deficient in anything. Our focus was to feel better, have energy, and most of all have happy tummies again.

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We grew up with two older sisters that were into body building. They ate a very very high protein diet with little carbs and pretty much no fat. And they gained muscle, a lot of muscle. They looked great during their training, but Lori and I never wanted to look all muscular. We want to look lean and long….like a dancers body, even though we are not dancers ; ) (Note: our sisters do not eat this way…they are almost vegans now ; ) )

We eat for energy…we eat to thrive. Animal proteins and dairy cause acidity in the body, which can lead to gaining fat. Acid gets stored in fat cells. One of our favorite books is Eating for Energy by Yuri Elkaim, Yuri goes into this topic in great detail, check it out. Working out causes acid. Meat and dairy cause acid. Solution – eat raw alkaline foods….like greens to help the body use energy to restore muscles!!

Brendan Brazier has two great books about fitness and eating for optimal performance. (our review on Thrive fitness coming soon) And then our friend Tim talks a lot about fitness, food, and protein. Check out his video where he talks about protein myths.

When you eat to much animal products, whether they are high in fat or lean, you still make your stomach and digestive system work harder to break down these heavy proteins into their amino acids. Amino acids are the building blocks to build muscle tissue. Plant based foods on the other hand are a lot easier for the body to digest due to being smaller chains and/or individual amino acids. Amino acids are a pure source of protein…this is what we are looking for!!

We do not eat beans or soy, and eat little nuts, so where do the twins get their protein?

Pure2raw Protein sources:

  • hemp seeds/hemp protein powder  (full of amino acids)
  • Vega Health Optimizer (hemp,pea, and rice protein)
  • Tahini/sesame seeds (good source of calcium too which lost in workouts)
  • Dark leafy greens  (the darker the better)
  • Spirulina (contains all 22 amino acids that the body requires)
  • Pumpkin seeds (also a great source of iron, which is lost when working out)
  • Bee Pollen (we do not eat this all the time, I know not vegan, gasp, but it a complete protein)
  • Chorella (great source of concentrated amino acids)

Greens have the highest amount of amino acid per oz than any other food….one reason we love our green smoothies!! We have noticed ever since we started eating a high raw diet, and following some of Brendan’s tips we have started to notice our bodies change. They are small changes, but positive ones, it is still a journey. Every thing takes hard work and time! We can work out hard for a shorter amount of time and are still getting results. We do not get sore, even after our marathon we were not sore. We can train less, which is great for us because with a busy schedule we can only get in short workouts.

Now to some people we may not be getting enough protein, but for us we feel we are getting the right amount.  Plant based proteins are easy to digest and are easier for the body to absorb the nutrients, so you get all the protein. Your body does not waste energy digesting them as your body would if digesting animal protein. If you still prefer to eat animal products, please get organic and local!!! They will be better quality than what you find in the stores.

Lori attempting side crow

Lori attempting side crow

But for those who do not believe you can gain muscle while being vegan please check out the amazing Kristen’s blog about protein.

Our friend Heather did a great post here. Check it out. Remember everyone ones is different and can handle different amounts of protein….fats….sugar….carbs….etc.  We have noticed the same results as Heather with eating more fats and less protein. You just find your own balance! Find what works for you  to get the results you want. Remember it is a journey!

We just know from our experience we do not need a lot of protein. Protein tends to slow us down. Our workouts lately have been mostly yoga and our newest obsession is Tracy Anderson’s Mat workout. We bought a few weeks ago and started it over the weekend.

Well speaking of fitness it is time for us to go work out!

Till next time,

Michelle

The Twins

L&M

{ 21 comments… read them below or add one }

Megan @ Healthy Hoggin February 16, 2010 at 10:28 am

Totally agree with you guys on the protein issue! I rarely worry about it when I’m drinking green juice and smoothies!

I have Tracy Anderson’s mat workout, too! I kinda got burnt out on it quickly, so maybe I’ll give it another shot soon. :)

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Pure2 February 16, 2010 at 10:30 am

Yes Megan give it another try. It is hard, we struggle to keep up with her. But hopefully it will get easier!! And so happy to see your Raw challenge!! Best of luck. We are here if you need anything ; )

shannonmarie February 16, 2010 at 10:35 am

I’ve been doing Tracy Anderson workouts, too. I love the results.

It sounds like the two of you eat a lot like me. I try to eat for fitness (and nutrition for my growing breastfed baby), as well as finding room for some fun sweets.

I’ve never needed much protein, as long as I made sure to get my greens. Now that little lady is around, I’ve had to boost my protein intake a bit; hemp is my favorite choice.

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Pure2 February 16, 2010 at 10:36 am

Yes Shannonmarie, we are so much alike….maybe we are triplets, LOL : ) Yay for greens and of course sweets!!

Karen February 16, 2010 at 10:38 am

Hi Twins,

I just followed you over here from Crazy Sexy Cancer…my food philosophy has been evolving for over a year now. I’ve dabbled in veganism, gluten-free, etc. I’ve finally settled into a mostly-vegetarian style with a heavy emphasis on getting a variety of fresh greens in; however, when I have animal protein is MUST be grass-fed, organic, fresh water, cage free, etc. I truly believe that “you are what you eat.”

Anyhow…I’ve been very curious and interested about RAW foods for quite some time. But I’m overwhelmed by the tools (dehydrater?!) and that most recipes have 12-20 ingrediants in them. I have no problem making food from scratch (I prefer it) but I just can’t spend all the time in the kitchen. I have two young children, a household to run, as well as an ongoing remodel that were very clost to finishing.

Sorry for such a long comment, but what is your advice to a newbie? If you could recommend your top 3 recipes (for yumminess as well as easiness) what would they be? Any other RAW blogs or books you recommend?

Thanks in advance for any advice,
Karen

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Pure2 February 16, 2010 at 12:57 pm

Glad you found us Karen. We will email you with some suggestions!

Averie (LoveVeggiesAndYoga) February 16, 2010 at 10:44 am

Oh how i adore this post…I love what you said and i too get this question all the time and just give non scientific answers…it works for me to eat a high-plant based diet, minimal protein powders, minimal soy (almost none) and minimal nuts. Aside from my desserts, I really dont cook with many nuts. Anyway, love everything you wrote. And all the link you put in to Kristen and the video…this post is awesome!

I gave a raw foods cooking class presentation and demo this weekend and people were so shocked that I dont count out my protein grams and that I don’t care to or care about it! It’s just not a biggie to me anymore :) Glad you are the same and keep a relaxed attitude (as i knew you did) but nice to see it in print :)
xoxo

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katie February 16, 2010 at 11:24 am

this is so interesting!!
ive never ever considered going vegan or vegetarian but i love reading about it

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Veronica Waks February 16, 2010 at 12:18 pm

Dear L&M. I’m a naturopathic physician and i have several patients in my practice who are vegetarian or vegans. some of them are doing very well, but several are not. when we go over their diets it seems to me that they are doing all right things, but they do not feel well or have low level of protein on the lab. work, and i see that their immune system is strained,or they have other problems such as anemia or osteopenia are among them, as a result, i advise them to go back to eating meat(small portions).

do you have friends or readers who have an opinion or experience getting of of the veg./vegan diet, please, send them my way.
your ideas and suggestions are welcome.

I found you through crazysexylife.com today
thank you
Dr. Veronica

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Michele February 16, 2010 at 1:55 pm

Hi- I am new to the site and am really enjoying it. I have a question about oats (re:your last post). Are all oats gluten free? Are buckwheat groats different from regular old fashioned oats? And (last question) would your overnight oats recipe be considered raw?
Thanks for all the info you are providing!

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Pure2 February 16, 2010 at 2:06 pm

Thanks for commenting Michele. No not all oats are gluten free, you have to find certified gluten free oats. Bob’s Red Mill has them. Buckwheat groats are different than old fashioned oats. Buckwheat is a seed, part of the rhubarb family. ln order to keep our overnight buckwheat groats raw, you need to use raw groats, which can be hard to find. Some natural food stores sell them, or you can get them online, search for raw buckwheat groats, and Bob’s Red Mills sells some too off Amazon. And we make our own coconut kefir, so that way it is not pasteurized like coconut milk in the stores, so again keeping it raw. You could always use any raw nut milk instead of kefir too. Hope this all helps!

Michele February 16, 2010 at 4:38 pm

Thanks so much!

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Lori February 16, 2010 at 5:34 pm

Such a hot topic! And I love when people ask me where I get my protein from… those greens are loaded with bioavailable protein!
I know it is different for everyone, but for me, I could do without animal meat forever (although I do get little cravings for fish now and again…). If it weren’t for my meat-lovin’ boyfriend, I’d probably never have animal proteins. Oh well. Great post and great topic! And good job on that side crow!!

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Pure2 February 16, 2010 at 5:57 pm

Lori, yes it is such a hot topic and one that we like to bring up from time to time. I agree about the boyfriend meat lover, mine is the same way though he is changing is views… slowly. He is getting better at having organic and local, so that is a start! :)

Michelle Young February 16, 2010 at 8:51 pm

I love your website and especially appreciated your info on protein. I myself have never been a big traditional protein eater (shakes, meat, etc) long before I even went vegan.

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hihorosie February 16, 2010 at 10:54 pm

Hemp seed (or the protein powder) and/or spirulina are traditionally my choice. As a result, my bambino loves ‘em both too!

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Mama Pea February 16, 2010 at 11:02 pm

I appreciate the info you gals provided. This is the one question I consistently have to deal with time and time again. Speaking of…the hubs is waiting to start LOST and I have some new raw treats to sample :) Could this day get any better?!?

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Carrie February 17, 2010 at 9:12 am

Loved this post. I also cannot tolerate a lot of nuts. Reading your “story” made me realize we have many of the same issues. I just want my tummy to feel better also! I will incorporate some of your suggestions to detox my colon and liver. You really just swallow a whole clove of garlic? Does it need to be cut up at all? Thanks for sharing all of your great info.

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Pure2 February 17, 2010 at 9:43 am

Carrie, it depends on the size of garlic. If large, I would cut it up!

Gena February 18, 2010 at 2:23 pm

Wonderful post, as always! I find that the most reassuring thing to tell clients is simply that they should live on less protein for a while, and see how they feel. As soon as they realize that they feel every bit as good as usual, they relinquish the protein paranoia.

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RunToTheFinish February 24, 2010 at 2:33 pm

fantastic! I was just asking today about protein powder and all the different varieties

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